Video opinion needed.

[Steve Fitch]

As some may have seen previous posts from me, I was looking for tools to solo train.

I came across this:

http://www.revival.us/index.asp?PageAct ... ProdID=252

Any thoughts?

Also...any thoughts on the products on the page? I am very new, and want to make sure I am not wasting money.

Thanks!

[Will Adamson]

Sorry that I can't authoritatively comment on the Ochs DVD, but I have used a few products from Revival that I guess is within the scope of what you are asking.

I have a pair of turnshoes from them that appear to have been discontinued. They are nothing short of fantastic. If the rest of their footwear is as good as these shoes, they are well worth it. These guys are very into costuming coming from the SCA, so I would trust the quality of that portion of the business.

When you get into the martial arts side of things it gets a bit murkier because of a difference in approach and methods. The swordsman gloves that they have (both the regular and reinforced) are sturdy, but the palms could have used a thinner, more supple leather. This would have made them more expensive, but still have been worth it. Breaking in either is a real pain. The road motorcycle gloves worn by Jake and Stew offer only slightly less protection at a higher price, but with much better feel. They call the gloves I have "light" sparring gloves. I would call the reinforced ones heavy duty sparring gloves.

I hope this was along the lines of what you were looking for.

[Alan Abu Bakr]

Looks interesting.
*adds bookmark*

while preserving thumb mobility necessary for sword and other weapons arts that include grappling.

If that means what I hope it means, I want a pair.

[Will Adamson]

I've actually kind of had trouble grappling with them because the palms are so stiff. The little piece that protects the thumb is pretty good though. But really, getting your hands out of the way should be your goal.

[Jason Taylor]

As some may have seen previous posts from me, I was looking for tools to solo train.

I came across this:

http://www.revival.us/index.asp?PageAct ... ProdID=252

Any thoughts?

Also...any thoughts on the products on the page? I am very new, and want to make sure I am not wasting money.

Thanks!

Actually, I have this video. It's okay. It's better than their wrestling video, which is pretty non-specific. This one gives you lots of detail, but they do some things differently, I'm sure (case in point: Krump). They have some decent drills, too. Of course, I'm a bit of a novice, so I might be a worse judge than others, but it seemed worth the money to me--or, at least, not a total waste. Then again, it didn't enthrall me to the point that I had to just watch all of it straight through multiple times, like with some videos.

Jason

[Steve Fitch]

As some may have seen previous posts from me, I was looking for tools to solo train.

I came across this:

http://www.revival.us/index.asp?PageAct ... ProdID=252

Any thoughts?

Also...any thoughts on the products on the page? I am very new, and want to make sure I am not wasting money.

Thanks!

Actually, I have this video. It's okay. It's better than their wrestling video, which is pretty non-specific. This one gives you lots of detail, but they do some things differently, I'm sure (case in point: Krump). They have some decent drills, too. Of course, I'm a bit of a novice, so I might be a worse judge than others, but it seemed worth the money to me--or, at least, not a total waste. Then again, it didn't enthrall me to the point that I had to just watch all of it straight through multiple times, like with some videos.

Jason

What videos would you or others suggest?

[Alan Abu Bakr]

I've actually kind of had trouble grappling with them because the palms are so stiff. The little piece that protects the thumb is pretty good though. But really, getting your hands out of the way should be your goal.

Just so I'm sure: Which glove?

[Will Adamson]

Both the light sparring and reinforced light sparring gloves. It might be the slickness of the leather as much as the stiffness. This aspect of them might well improve when they get really well broken in, but the motorcylce gloves are that way new.

[Alan Abu Bakr]

Both the light sparring and reinforced light sparring gloves. It might be the slickness of the leather as much as the stiffness. This aspect of them might well improve when they get really well broken in, but the motorcylce gloves are that way new.

Ah, so not the "Medium Padded Sparring Gloves", which I was talking about (and thus the latest mentioned) then. Well in that case it was good that I asked.

[Randall Pleasant]

Steve

I have the Ochs video. The production quality of the video is very good. Overall the interpretation in the video is good, much better than some of the other interpretations I have seen, you can learn much from it. However, there are a number of places where their interpretation is very different from that of John Clements and other senior ARMA members. As someone mentioned earlier Ochs, like all other groups, still follows the old (dated & ineffective) windshield wiper interpretation of the Krumphau. Like so many other groups, in the Vom Tag guard Ochs members also hold their hilt in front of their chest, something not considered martially sound by ARMA.

[carlo arellano]

Steve

I have the Ochs video. The production quality of the video is very good. Overall the interpretation in the video is good, much better than some of the other interpretations I have seen, you can learn much from it. However, there are a number of places where their interpretation is very different from that of John Clements and other senior ARMA members. As someone mentioned earlier Ochs, like all other groups, still follows the old (dated & ineffective) windshield wiper interpretation of the Krumphau. Like so many other groups, in the Vom Tag guard Ochs members also hold their hilt in front of their chest, something not considered martially sound by ARMA.

Thank you, this is very helpful.

[Will Adamson]

Ran,

If you understand the interpretive differences, is it still worth using as a memory aide?

[Steve Fitch]

Steve

I have the Ochs video. The production quality of the video is very good. Overall the interpretation in the video is good, much better than some of the other interpretations I have seen, you can learn much from it. However, there are a number of places where their interpretation is very different from that of John Clements and other senior ARMA members. As someone mentioned earlier Ochs, like all other groups, still follows the old (dated & ineffective) windshield wiper interpretation of the Krumphau. Like so many other groups, in the Vom Tag guard Ochs members also hold their hilt in front of their chest, something not considered martially sound by ARMA.

Thank you. I will use this and ARMA references as tools. DVD ordered.

[michael fitch]

Steve

I have the Ochs video. The production quality of the video is very good. Overall the interpretation in the video is good, much better than some of the other interpretations I have seen, you can learn much from it. However, there are a number of places where their interpretation is very different from that of John Clements and other senior ARMA members. As someone mentioned earlier Ochs, like all other groups, still follows the old (dated & ineffective) windshield wiper interpretation of the Krumphau. Like so many other groups, in the Vom Tag guard Ochs members also hold their hilt in front of their chest, something not considered martially sound by ARMA.

Thank you. I will use this and ARMA references as tools. DVD ordered.

remember this is their interretation, which does not make it wrong

[Steve Fitch]

remember this is their interretation, which does not make it wrong

Thanks. BTW...love your last name.