Gun disarmaent technique?

[Benjamin Parker]

Does the arma have any techniques for disarming someone with a gun?


BTW I've always wondered if you had a crossbow disarmament technique?

[Stacy Clifford]

There's no technique listed in any manual I know of for either scenario, but the answer should be pretty obvious for both: make the first shot miss and hit him before he finishes reloading...

Really I think most of the disarms shown in the manuals will work against almost any weapon you can hold in your hands as long as the technique keeps the dangerous end pointing away from you. There are only so many ways your joints can bend and still hold on to something.

[Richard Martell]

I have some Law Enforcement friends that say they have trained in Krav Maga through their agency. Defending against armed assault is basic Krav Maga training. There are a couple of manuals out there but the best information and obviously the best way to learn would be to find a self defense instructor that teaches Krav Maga. Hope this helps.

[Donald Pike]

While I cannot say whether it is Eastern or Western in origin, my brother showed me a technique not long ago. Since both of us tend to study various martial arts, it can be difficult to figure out where he even learned it.

At any rate, it is limited in that we're assuming the assailant is both close, and holding his gun out in front; as well as you're in a standing position. It also relies on speed and surprise, as you're looking down the barrel the whole time.

You take your hands, and bring them together in sort of a clap; using one to brace the inside of the wrist of the assailant, and the other to strike the hand. After testing it several times, neither of us could hold our gun against the other when this was used.

I used to know a nerve hold that would cause a person to drop a weapon, but that was years ago and I doubt i could explain it online. My explanation above is very poor; I'm more used to showing what I mean.

Again, it is specific in it's application; and as with all such techniques could be dangerous. I won't claim to be any sort of master martial artist, so you would be better served going to a good teacher (and not one that "guarantees" a high rank!) and talking with them.

[Stacy Clifford]

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I like the slap technique you describe, sounds simple and effective, although I'm not sure it would work quite as well with a knife. Might be interesting to try though, and I'd add a step offline to get you further out of the line of potential accidental fire. I'm always wary of the idea of nerve pinches because if they require too much precision then there's too much chance of missing the grab against a jumpy or trained opponent. I also like things that work well after thirty minutes of practice rather than three years and are fairly hard to forget how to do.

[ChristineChurches]

Stacy -
My husband Jim, who is in law enforcement, also taught me this technique but we only did it against a knife. It is extremely effective and easy to learn - if he can show me....

However against a gun I wouldn't feel quite so comfortable - you have to be very close and in front of the assailant - something about the immediacy of the trigger finger....

[Stacy Clifford]

Stacy -
My husband Jim, who is in law enforcement, also taught me this technique but we only did it against a knife. It is extremely effective and easy to learn - if he can show me....

However against a gun I wouldn't feel quite so comfortable - you have to be very close and in front of the assailant - something about the immediacy of the trigger finger....

Exactly why I would add that step offline - slap to the left, step to the right. Jerking a gun around in someone's hand with their finger on the trigger doesn't sound real great to me either, but neither does leaving the decision up to them. I'd probably prefer to try and take control over where the gun's pointing than hope I can make them let go of it without likelihood of a second chance. I've noticed that most dagger disarms in the manuals don't occur until you have the weapon arm well under control, and I would think the same should apply to guns; just seems like a higher percentage chance of success. Of course in that situation nothing really sounds great, you just have to pick the choice that sounds the least bad.

[Donald Pike]

Quite frankly I wouldn't feel comfortable no matter what if a gun was pointed at me. In fact, I'd be scared. I know because I had a guy pull a gun on me when I was 15.

But anything is better than laying down and letting them kill you.

[ChristineChurches]

Quite frankly I wouldn't feel comfortable no matter what if a gun was pointed at me. In fact, I'd be scared. I know because I had a guy pull a gun on me when I was 15.

But anything is better than laying down and letting them kill you.

True, however there are many other techniques which he has shown me where you get control of the gun in a safer manner.

However, since none of them are found in Historical Western Martial Arts manuals that I have seen, they are a discussion for another day.

[Stacy Clifford]

It would be interesting to know if some of the knife defenses would work against guns. Some of the arm bars seem like they could be useful.

[Tony_Klabunde]

It would be interesting to know if some of the knife defenses would work against guns. Some of the arm bars seem like they could be useful.

I have used and tested many gun takeaway techniques.

Lots of knife disarming technques will work...sort of

Anyway
Get yourself an airsoft pistol.
Load it
*PUT ON YOUR SAFETY GLASSES*
try and take the gun away from your buddy while he/she tries to shoot you.

PS. Keep your lips together.

.........

I would avoid the arm bars, but hey try it.....

FYI just my two cents.....

If you're not close and he/she is and expernice gunman or fighter

Your dead...

But play around with it, I have seen only one technique I felt really safe with.

Either way you need to gain control of the gun, bottom line

problem is I have to be very close to do that.

[Joshua Welsh]

Interestingly, I found this recently:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/ ... 65e6cd55cf

This is from Thibault in 1628[/url]

[Jeff Hansen]

Interestingly, I found this recently:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/ ... 65e6cd55cf

This is from Thibault in 1628[/url]

I don't know that I would want to try that one vs. a modern repeating firearm.