Nicolaes Petter 1674 document

[Tyrone Artur Budzin]

Hi everyone.

For those who would like a personal english hardcopy of Nicolaes Petter's 1674 Clear Education in the Magnificent Art of Wrestling I have just completed creating such a document, just click on the link below.

It is in pdf format and can be printed anytime you wish.

http://www.hroarr.com/manuals/liechtena ... n-1674.pdf

[Jaron Bernstein]

Hi everyone.

For those who would like a personal english hardcopy of Nicolaes Petter's 1674 Clear Education in the Magnificent Art of Wrestling I have just completed creating such a document, just click on the link below.

It is in pdf format and can be printed anytime you wish.


http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f= ... 035b063345

Thanks!

[Matt Bryant]

I like it. Many thanks.

[terry brown]

Hi everyone.

For those who would like a personal english hardcopy of Nicolaes Petter's 1674 Clear Education in the Magnificent Art of Wrestling I have just completed creating such a document, just click on the link below.

It is in pdf format and can be printed anytime you wish.


http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f= ... 035b063345

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Thank you for this, much appreciated.
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Terry

[Antonio Delgado]

Thanks!

[Tyrone Artur Budzin]

Thanks everyone! I'm glad it was warmly accepted. Hopefully I can soon produce another for the WMA community.

I just like to clarify if Nicolaes Petter's work is considered as part of German martial tradition or not (he was Dutch)? I'm a bit vague about this historical fact. In addition was Johann Georg Passchen also Dutch or was he German?

[RayMcCullough]

Why does it matter? Does it change the effectiveness of the manual?

Sincerely
Ray

[Tyrone Artur Budzin]

Why does it matter? Does it change the effectiveness of the manual?

Sincerely
Ray

It would not ofcourse. The question is posed as a point of clarification.

[RayMcCullough]

Cool. Just asking. Some people like to make such a distinction between this and that "school". I don't think it matters because of course it should be solid technique whether it comes from Mars or Venus.

I asked a similar question on another forum without any intentions of being a smartalec(and said so in the post) and the idiot who started the post acted like I was the idiot for trying to invoke a little thought to the question he asked. I guess I didn't agree with him and was therefore the true idiot (according to him).

Later
Ray

P.S.= Thanks for posting the download.

[Tyrone Artur Budzin]

Cool. Just asking. Some people like to make such a distinction between this and that "school". I don't think it matters because of course it should be solid technique whether it comes from Mars or Venus.

I asked a similar question on another forum without any intentions of being a smartalec(and said so in the post) and the idiot who started the post acted like I was the idiot for trying to invoke a little thought to the question he asked. I guess I didn't agree with him and was therefore the true idiot (according to him).

Later
Ray

P.S.= Thanks for posting the download.

No problem. I believe the historical aspect of any martial tradition is of great importance. On any level, credit needs to be given to where its due.

[Tyrone Artur Budzin]

After further research I have found more information on the historical origin of Johann Georg Paschen's work.

It seems his real surname was Pascha and Paschen in German refers to "Pascha's book" or "Pasha's work". The name is routinely spelled in different ways. His books were written in german and published in Germany. Below are some titles under his name.

Kurtze Anleitung des Jägerstocks / oder halben Pique (1660)

Kurtze jedoch deutliche Beschreibung, handlend vom Fechten auf den Stoß und Hiebe (1661/64)

Vollständige Fecht-, Ring- und Voltigier-Kunst (1666/73)

Vollständiges Ring-Buch (1663)


Most certainly J. G. Paschen/Pascha was German and his works historically belong to the German Martial tradition.

Nicolaes Petter on the other hand was Dutch. His work was written in dutch and published in Holland. This resource belongs to the Dutch Martial tradition.

P.S. Holland and Germany were considered one country until Holland became independent during the middle 17th century after the Peace Treaty of Westphalia was signed. This suggests both German and Dutch traditions are very much intertwined, if not the same.

[Tom Keesler]

Thanks for the translation and the education on Pacha and Petter.

Tom Keesler

[Scott A. Richardson]

Well done, sir. Thank you for the valuable resource.

[terry brown]

Well done, sir. Thank you for the valuable resource.

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Scott, forgive the intrusion but I couldn't help noticing your signature, as follows:-
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"Strike like Lightning, Fight like Thunder"
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It reminded me that one of the 'five natures' of the 'five hills' (or five original styles) of kung fu is very similar to your signature:-
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'The Nature of Peh Hoke (white crane) is like thunder, lightning and storm'.
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Seems like fighting minds think alike
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Moderators, apologies for going off-topic.

[John Farthing]

This link seems to no longer be working due to inactivity. Could you kindly update it?

Thanks!