master cuts

Eddie Smith · Post by **Eddie Smith** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:27 am

could anyone list them for me w/ discriptions

danielcarcich · Post by **danielcarcich** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:11 am

There's a really nice explanation here on the ARMA website, complete with pictures:

http://www.thearma.org/essays/mastercuts.html

Jaron Bernstein · Post by **Jaron Bernstein** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:06 am

Eddie Smith wrote:could anyone list them for me w/ discriptions

For descriptions I refer you to the source manuals. They are:

Sheitelhau - breaks Alber
Zwerchhau - breaks all that comes from above
Krumphau - breaks Ox
Schielhau - breaks Pflug

and arguably Zornhau - breaks Zornhau

Sal Bertucci · Post by **Sal Bertucci** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:34 am

Dah!! We need some more variety to those avatars! I keep getting confused. :cry:

Jonathan Newhall · Post by **Jonathan Newhall** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:54 pm

I agree Sal.

The ARMA article on what the master strikes are and aren't is a tiny bit outdated, though, from what I've heard (especially regarding the "ARMA Krump"), so perhaps some more recent work would be better for him such as "Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly art of the Longsword" available at many online bookstores.

Sal Bertucci · Post by **Sal Bertucci** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:29 pm

I consider that one of the older books.

Jonathan Newhall · Post by **Jonathan Newhall** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:10 am

Not as old as the ARMA arcticle!

Sal Bertucci · Post by **Sal Bertucci** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:23 am

Touché (I apologize to the French among us for my poor spelling) :wink:

Randall Pleasant · Post by **Randall Pleasant** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:19 am

Jonathan Newhall wrote:I agree Sal.

The ARMA article on what the master strikes are and aren't is a tiny bit outdated, though, from what I've heard (especially regarding the "ARMA Krump"), so perhaps some more recent work would be better for him such as "Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly art of the Longsword" available at many online bookstores.

The book "Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly art of the Longsword" was published back in 2003, well before the article. In any case, much of the interpretations seen in the book and the article are very outdated, especially the Krump. John Clements' new interpretation of the Krump is completely different from anything in any current book or article.

Jonathan Newhall · Post by **Jonathan Newhall** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:40 pm

Randall Pleasant wrote:
Jonathan Newhall wrote:I agree Sal.

The ARMA article on what the master strikes are and aren't is a tiny bit outdated, though, from what I've heard (especially regarding the "ARMA Krump"), so perhaps some more recent work would be better for him such as "Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly art of the Longsword" available at many online bookstores.

The book "Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly art of the Longsword" was published back in 2003, well before the article. In any case, much of the interpretations seen in the book and the article are very outdated, especially the Krump. John Clements' new interpretation of the Krump is completely different from anything in any current book or article.

Is that so? Guess I don't know any recent books, then. Still, it's a good cross-reference.

Speaking of Clements' interpretations, weren't we supposed to get an article on footwork sometime soon? :wink:

John R. Schmidt · Post by **John R. Schmidt** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:24 am

yeah, Ive waiting on that too

Randall Pleasant · Post by **Randall Pleasant** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:28 am

John R. Schmidt wrote:yeah, Ive waiting on that too

Even those of us who have received it in class from JC and have been using it are waiting on the artcle too! Hopefully it will be out this coming week.

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